This is completely off topic, but those monkeys remind me of the monkeys I saw on Miyajima Island. You have to take a gondola to a mountain where the monkeys live. Before you walk out of the gondola there are signs that tell you not to feed them, try to touch them, stare at them, show your teeth, etc.
The first thing I see when I walk out there, is a Japanese lady right in front of one of the monkeys laughing, smiling and bowing to it, while the monkey is sitting there baring its teeth and chattering away.
That's why I suggested avoiding marriage. It leaves "some" guys psychologically dead. (Probably more than combat ever has).
Thanks for pointing that out Mike. :-) I also meant marriage and several other psychological factors as well. Also I did say "for some". I guess some people just don't know how to properly read when trying to jump to conclusions all the time.
Doc :wave:
Maybe Thomas can settle this by posting his true location as he did with the original poster.
And also, why do you hate Japan so much? If you hate it enough to do all this, then you surely should have numerous, justified reasons for your feeling.
There's just a few unintelligents who hate for no reason. :okashii:
Those monkey pictures were cool though! :giggle:
NE haha :p
Of that I have no doubt! HA! Having been stationed in Japan wa-a-a-a-a-a-y back in the late 70's, I remember many of my fellow sailors were similarly relived of their heard earned yen in bars outside the main gate at Yokosuka.
I can't imagine what else would make him feel so frustrated with the country. Especially when he lives on base and needn't leave it if he doesn't want to as it would still feel like he was back in the USA. I wish he'd sign back in and gives us a few more details.
Chances are we probably won't hear from this guy again. I'm guessing he was homesick and didn't like being away from home. I've also seen homesick military guys react with anger and frustration about the places they were stationed at, like their recruiters never told them they'd travel far and wide from their neighborhoods. Sheesh! To paraphrase the immortal Bugs Bunny, "Whatta maroon!"
:D
she was quite old years when she given birth,
but i live with a relitive. She was around 67- 72 because she was in acoma during the war and not documents on about her, and I was sent to Canada to live with my cousins.
...What's the difference between a PX & a BX? Private exchange, (does that even mean anything in army lingo??) Base Exchange---- Now I remember looking up Base Exchange, but not writing it... d'oh.
Anyway, we all have learned something out of it:
1. That the US Army should be a bit careful, cos there's a troll hidden in your lines, that's dangerous for your men.
2. It's no good to be changin' your flag when you can't even write in proper english; it can be insulting for the country.
As for us, c'mon! We all love a nice argument, even though it comes from an ignorant drunk man (or kid, whatever):haihai:
Doc :wave:
Hmm! And I thought I was the only one who was detecting that particular odor! Good to know I'm not alone!
:okashii:
At least their the minority, i assume.
pizza flavoured chips are good, yakisoba is good, pocky is good, mos burger is good, japanese trains are good (and convenient), vending machines all over the place are good, seafood tomato and all sorts of cup noodles are good, getting a good dinner out of store bought ready-meals heated up at the store for your convenience are good, scaring japanese kids who stare at you outside your apartment building is good, giving "THE SMILE" to japanese cashier girls at the local ozam supermarket is good, drinking a little sake now and then despite an otherwise solid no alcohol policy is good, japanese western style electronic toilets are good, beating your girlfriends sister at her own game; puyo puyo is good, crawling into your girlfriends futon in the tatami room in the morning when the sun is comming up is good, learning how to bathe like a japanese person is good, the complete look of suprise and appriciation on a delivery blokes face when you help him with a heavy package is good, eating japanese food with hashi with your girlfriends family is good, learning to master that souless gaze japanese have while on the train is good.
Plenty of goods and they far out-number your basic "japan sucks" bad.
I wont deny Japan has its downsides, but, their few and far between and dont overall effect my general good mood japan otherwise gives me.
Doc :wave:
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I think Neo got confused about his country of origin, after all Canada and China both start and end in the same letter, both big countries and both have the colour red in the flag. It is easy for the mentally challenged like him to get confused. It could happen to anyone. He deserves our pity, so don't mock him.:nuts:
If you are feeling bored, try to find one single complete sentence in the post by rex22neo... And what happened to the original poster? Usually trolls are supposed to bait people, and then come back in for a second straffing run---
This entire thread was inspired by one serviceman's hatred for a country he only marginally interacts with, and bless his heart, his love of pizza crisps...
As for glass houses, throwing stones, and what not, during WWII, I should point out to neo, nee Mr. Anderson, that Canada (as well as the US) seized the properties of Japanese descendents and forcefully imprisoned them, many of whom only later were repaid reperations of some $21,000 dollars...
In Canada, similar evacuation orders were established. Nearly 23,000 Nikkei, or Canadians of Japanese descent, were sent to camps in British Columbia. It was the greatest mass movement in the history of Canada.
Though families were generally kept together in the United States, Canada sent male evacuees to work in road camps or on sugar beet projects. Women and children Nikkei were forced to move to six inner British Columbia towns.
....But this was a long time ago, and I'm American, that is to say that I was born in the United States. Do I cary the burden of my country's horrible actions of enacting Executive Order 9066? Do I cary my country's past on my shoulder?
How can we as people go on living, and forgiving each other when we conciously walk with such a heavy burden?
Another question, why do you go through the 2 minutes of trouble of creating a profile for a forum about a country you don't even like?
:D
Your very own GI Joe Troll.
It speaks, just, in easy to understand phrases, such as: "I hate Japan", "I hate Japan" and the ever popular "I hate Japan".
Buy now and get a free bag of Pizza crisps
Only available via mail order form Japan. Note: intelligence is smaller than advertised
How much does he cost? I'll take three and give them to my best friend to use as target practice for his shotgun.
Doc :wave:
I wonder if this guy would actually sell his left testicle just to go back home?
Doc :wave:I wonder if we could put this sort of notion on a tourist brochure?
I'm sure the original poster made that post after a long night drinking in Ropongi...I mean look at the time of the post!
Doc :wave:
So if you dont belive me do so, its your mind that cant escape the box
I would put a bunch of laughing smilies on this, but you don't see them. Nice one
Yes they are. Once you figure them out they can be, and were, alot of fun.
Well, it pains me to make such an admission, but yeah, I was young and naive as they came and was sufficiently snookered in Yokohama as well. Shoulda known better to think that any attractive woman would've been even mildly interested in a tall, dorky kid like me unless it was to separate me from my hard earned yen. Once was all it took for me to learn my lesson though! Ahh, the good old days!
Yes, the good old days. Looking back on it now it was a great time, but back then I was pretty upset the first couple of times as I was warned by those that were stationed there for a while. But I thought I was different. I thought I could get them to to go out with me. Some did, but only after I learned the ropes.
Normal Doritos should be kind of thin, and get that Dorito-gunk all over your hands. ;) Pizza Chips?? What? The funniest thing about this whole thread is that its most exotic locale is the BASE PX.
I think Neo got confused about his country of origin, after all Canada and China both start and end in the same letter, both big countries and both have the colour red in the flag. It is easy for the mentally challenged like him to get confused. It could happen to anyone. He deserves our pity, so don't mock him.:nuts:
Dont think your smart enough to tell me where i am. You have no business to tell me what i could of chossen by mistake. I am in Canada, i nevered changed my flag to china. You think i care about what a bunch of people in 20 years old to 55. O wow, im so much younger. Trust me, its sad how you must mock a younfer person then you. Im want this thread to be closed and lock. My reason can be as good as yours, but i got much more thinking then what you maybe are.
Pwned big time. :D
Doc :wave:
BUT, and that's a big BUT, things changed fast when I made a real effort to learn the language. I lucked out and met a japanese guy my age who wanted to learn English. Within 3 months I could travel around on my on (with a good pocket dictionary) and a whole new Japan opened up for me. I would hop a train or bus to a small town about an hour from the big city. Usually I was the only Gaijin in town, and people were so good to me. I ended up with a fiancee that spoke no English which spured me to learn more Japanese. After 2 years, I felt Japan was more my real home then the US.
Anyway, the long winded point of all my rambling is, give it some time if you can and work hard on learning the language, try to get away from the big cities, and just maybe you may come to love the country like I did.
Uncle Frank
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Your very own GI Joe Troll.
It speaks, just, in easy to understand phrases, such as: "I hate Japan", "I hate Japan" and the ever popular "I hate Japan".
Buy now and get a free bag of Pizza crisps
Only available via mail order form Japan. Note: intelligence is smaller than advertised
hah, bril' man, but he'll never be here again, he just wanted to kick a hornet's nest and run. the coward. agh, Idon't know why I even bother to reply here.
what are pizza crisps? like, pizza flavored crisps? why not just have pizza...
Lots of military jargon is service branch specific and can be unintelligible to people in other branches.
No, more like the instance with a good friend that I know who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq with the Delta Force and couldn't wait to tell everybody about all the people that he killed.
Doc :wave:
Do not judge one people by the acts of one or two groups. Many governments and their respective armies have had highs and lows. If you can't even bring yourself to discuss this topic without being rude, cursing, making assumptions, or threatening an entire country, please get a hold of your temper and come back when you can talk with us like a civilized human being. ^_^
He said that as a child she helped out the Chinese Army, figure she had to be at least somewhere around 10 to have done that. At least older than 5, anyway. So if we take 1945 as the latest possible year and assume an age of between 5 and 10, we have her being born 1935-1940, perhaps. That would make her 47-52 when he was born....and that's assuming all conditions to get the best lowball estimate on her age. As you say, not impossible. But highly improbable.
Didn't it ever happen to you? It sure did me during my early weeks there. I was relieved of quite a few yen at the hostess bars in Chinatown in Yokohama who knew real well how to relieve a young naive military man of his yen. I learned real quick though.
If they ended up with blue balls, is relieved really the right word?
Hostess bars are fun if you're on your toes. I was airly/'>fairly discriminating, and ended having a great time, getting completely plastered without breaking 10,000 yen.
They don't teach the rudiments of English composition in Canada?
BUT, and that's a big BUT, things changed fast when I made a real effort to learn the language. I lucked out and met a japanese guy my age who wanted to learn English. Within 3 months I could travel around on my on (with a good pocket dictionary) and a whole new Japan opened up for me. I would hop a train or bus to a small town about an hour from the big city. Usually I was the only Gaijin in town, and people were so good to me. I ended up with a fiancee that spoke no English which spured me to learn more ....
I read all opionons on this. The above story, for me, sums this up. While his exeperience is the japan of 30 years ago (maybe more), and some people are better at learning languages than others, the basic point, is the same. If you adapt a little, work at it, and even fail once and awhile, but get back up. A country like Japan, can be a great experience.
Nor has he ever signed back into this forum since he posted that. I think he must've been relieved of quite a bit of yen at the local hostess bars outside the base in Sagami-Otsuka only to leave broke and with "blue balls".
Of that I have no doubt! HA! Having been stationed in Japan wa-a-a-a-a-a-y back in the late 70's, I remember many of my fellow sailors were similarly relived of their heard earned yen in bars outside the main gate at Yokosuka.
Seems both you and I were in the military and in Japan at the same time Jeff! I was stationed at Camp Zama and often visited Yokosuka.
I remember many of my fellow sailors were similarly relived of their heard earned yen in bars outside the main gate at Yokosuka.
Didn't it ever happen to you? It sure did me during my early weeks there. I was relieved of quite a few yen at the hostess bars in Chinatown in Yokohama who knew real well how to relieve a young naive military man of his yen. I learned real quick though.
Japan sucks balls, end of discussion. :p
I wonder if this guy would actually sell his left testicle just to go back home?
Doc :wave:
well, I hate the moon, i think the country looks to grey (white if you are looking it from somewhere in the middle of the earth..) I mean, damn, they dont even have LIFE on it? and why are we looking to it all the time?
give me Japan, because i dont like grey country's...............
I can't imagine what else would make him feel so frustrated with the country. Especially when he lives on base and needn't leave it if he doesn't want to as it would still feel like he was back in the USA. I wish he'd sign back in and gives us a few more details.
I am ashamed to have people like yourself reside in the same nation as I do.
Your grammar is atrocious, as well.
Doc :wave:
descr: UUNET Non-Portable Customer Assignment
descr: AMERICABLE
descr: ATSUGI NAVY BASE
descr: 1 FUKAYA; KANAGAWA-KEN
descr: AYASE-SHI, 99999
descr: JPN
country: JP
IP address check above. Joegish94, a disheartened G.I. Joe? :-)
Well it's a start if you look at it that way. :D
Doc :wave:
I prefer drinking water about discussion to discussion about water. ;-)
I want to know how Carlson knows that Doc has a good grip... :clueless: :blush:
I am also curious to this as well. :clueless:
Doc :wave:
Welcome to the forum, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Anyone wanna place any bets on how long it takes this troll to get banned? I say he'll be gone in the next 6 hours.
*Today might be tommorow for you when you read this, so just take my word for it.
(Does anybody here look pissed off now?)
Me, but that's because I'm pissed off all the time. :p
Doc :wave:
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You realize that everyone does not have the same reaction to things right? I have been in many "hot spots" and (in my opinion) I'm fine. You meet people on the street everyday who are much more screwed up IMHO.
Oh, yes. I'm always bragging about that sort of thing, aren't I?
Granted being a US serviceman, you dont really get a choice of destination,
You are misinformed.
As for my visa stamp not even drying yet, whats your point?
That one who has been here a month should not cast aspersions at the lack of experience of others.
im 20 years old, ive only just had the means to get here, we cant ALL have joined the US army in the seventies
Having been born in 1965, neither could I.
infact being british, thats an impossibility,
Again, you are misinformed. One of my USN shipmates, a cook, was British. There are a great many persons in the US military who are not American citizens.
i know your proud of your status as the gandalf figure of foreign nationals in japan, the longest there
You'll have considerable difficulty justifying that comment.
http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=291702&postcount=75
http://tinyurl.com/bogdj
and others I don't have the time to hunt up right now.
and wisest, but thats no reason to haze the greenies, we all have to start somewhere.
I haze the greenies? This is news.
I pointed out the humor of a person fresh off the Boeing making comments about other foreigners whose Japan experience he finds to be deficient.
Oh okay okay, i get your gripe, "the distorted blah blah view of SOME US servicemen and women blah blah so on so on..."
I apologise for any inconvenience and misunderstandings, as always mike, i value your input on japan related topics.
There we go. That's all that is needed....appropriate qualifiers. They prevent statements from being baseless blanket generalizations and help one to readily distinguish statements of categorical fact (which invite disagreement) and statements of opinion or conjecture.
*I don't qualify hentai-tentacle porn manga as 'sexual'... ;)
Doc :wave:
I want to know how Carlson knows that Doc has a good grip... :clueless: :blush:
how about thomas kick this guy out off here? or close the thread?:okashii:
As a child.
Yes.
actually it's not impossible! I know quite a few brits who serve in both the US Army and the Air Force.
Another question, why do you go through the 2 minutes of trouble of creating a profile for a forum about a country you don't even like?
he probably got turned down my a japanese girl...
(Does anybody here look pissed off now?)
Doc :wave:
for my childish post of the early morning.... in before lock!
A squid or jarhead, almost certainly.
Let's keep in mind his very important qualifier of "what I've seen so far" in practical terms very likely means "not very much", given his circumstances.
This is very possible though...My best friends mom was 47 when he was born. It's not the norm...but it does happen!
My, my! Where to begin, besides the hideously bad spelling, the terrible lack of punctuation, the wretched sentence construction or the blatantly simple fact that this fool simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Must've been drunk as hell when he composed that tripe. Fifth graders can do better than this, and are probably considerably smarter than this knucklehead to boot. Let's see, how did Japan get so rich? That might have had something to do with the country's incredible work ethic, becoming the world's leader in the development of electronics, computers (which you used to abuse the English language with your half-baked ramblings, Clyde), cameras and automobiles. Don't tell me you weren't aware of that, were you, junior?
While the Rape of Nanking was a monstrous black mark in Japan's history, it pales in comparison to the horrors committed by Nazi Germany (6 million, that's SIX MILLION Jews massacred unless you're not up on your history) during World War II or the inhuman Russian purges under Lenin and Stalin, never mind how the Soviet Union nearly brought about a nuclear fueled World War III back in the 60's thanks to their sneaking ICBM's into Cuba. Let's not forget China with it's decades of brutal human rights violations and oppression of its people which cost thousands and thousands of lives, or even America with it's own disgusting shame of organized slavery in the 18th century, followed by its oppression of Blacks in the 19th and well into the 20th century. Oh, damn, almost forgot to mention that the U.S. Army experimented on Blacks in the '40's, subjecting them to diseases like syphillis to see what the effects would be. Grisly to say the least. Bottom line, when it comes to the art of wholesale butchery, Japan is a rank amatuer.
By the by, whatever gave you the idea that everybody here is Japanese? If you'd be so good as to look at all the little flags at the bottom of each person's profile, you'll see that we're a melting pot of cultures from many countries who are here because we appreciate Japanese culture in all its forms. is Japan perfect? certainly not, but NO country is, so get off your high horse, pal because what you wrote only exposed your bigotry and ignorance. As far as I'm concerned, you have my permission to leave this board and never come back. We're better off without neanderthals like you.
Doc :wave:
By your post rex22neo, it seems you would like the Chinese military of today to be no different than the Japanese Army of the past. We all know what atrocities the Japanese Army comitted against your country and her people, but those people are long gone and dead. There is no excuse in the world for what they did, but the past cannot be changed. We can only learn from it and prevent it from happening today. If you ask many older Japanese, they severely regret what their country and military did, but their government will not come out and say it. Why I do not know.
But I do know that the Japanese government has given your country billions of dollars to help bring her into the 21st century and build factories and such. But still your government prevents you from being completely free and learning about the true world by preventing you from openly critisizing your own government or accessing all web sites on the internet. Probably the only reason you are allowed to visit this web site is because you are critisizing Japan. But then again, maybe you are a member of the Chinese government. I don't know.
To judge a 21st century country and her people, based on the actions of their country 60-70 years ago, when about 95% of the people today were not even alive then, shows that you are very ignorant of the facts, will not listen to the facts, and will not even attempt to learn anything about modern Japan or your own country as your country and the Chinese government slaughtered millions of Chinese people in the not too distant past. How do you feel about that or is that ok with you? One look at 1989, or the reign of Chairman Mao, should give you some indication. Or are you not allowed to learn about that in school? Alot of people participating in the 1989 uprising in China for freedom have been put to death or are still in jail. Is that the signs of a free, decent country?
It's very sad that some people like you feel this way today and I know that all Chinese people do not feel the same way as you do as they know that the past is the past and it is a different world today.
If you cannot discuss this subject in a mature manner without filling your post with racist remarks and curse words, then I hope the moderators ban you from this forum as there are many other forums out there that will allow you to post racist hate-filled comments.
Although the thread was lame to begin with it did lead to further discussion of Japanese hostess bars, foreigners disappointment with Japan, especially US servicemen, and a rant by rex22neo which stirred further discussion on why some people in the world still hate Japan when it was their ancestors who did the atrocities. Not the present day people.
If the mods wants to close it, then so be it. I will not complain. But the discussion started by the OP has generated alot of interest and posts. That is good for the forum I think. I mean, look at how one person's drunken rant caused so many replies. I have seen far less replies on more educational and informative posts which should've generated more replies. But since this a forum about Japan, I vote to let the post stay open unless it gets too ugly and racist.
"He's just trying to get your goat."
I'm not saying hes right, hell. I love Japanese. I'm only 25% japanese, but I'm damn prove to be 25% japanese. We should have not reply and piss him off. Then we would have the last laugh.
He didn't even reply once.
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I was there from August of 1977 to December 1978. That brief time spent in Japan represented the best time I ever had in the Navy!
:-)
Didn't it ever happen to you? It sure did me during my early weeks there. I was relieved of quite a few yen at the hostess bars in Chinatown in Yokohama who knew real well how to relieve a young naive military man of his yen. I learned real quick though.
Well, it pains me to make such an admission, but yeah, I was young and naive as they came and was sufficiently snookered in Yokohama as well. Shoulda known better to think that any attractive woman would've been even mildly interested in a tall, dorky kid like me unless it was to separate me from my hard earned yen. Once was all it took for me to learn my lesson though! Ahh, the good old days!
:D
I have never been to Japan, but I would love live there.
:D
Doc :wave:
You got that right, homes! That knucklehead doesn't know just how good he has it in Japan! I wouldn't wish a tour to Iraq on my worst enemy!
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You should word yourself differently ( = in a nice way ) for a better response.
*Today might be tommorow for you when you read this, so just take my word for it.
It was.. I don't really care about Friday the 13th though.
But my brother was born on Friday the 13th so it could mean bad things.. :D Just joking, really.. :P
This thread is amusing. I like how something so random came from a troll's post.
You are the kind of guy who will HATE just about any country in the world, even your own !
And all that just because you cannot stand to see yourself in a mirror !! What a pitty !
Welcome to the forum, don't let the door hit you on the way out. As far as I'm concerned, you can let the door hit you on your way out... I wish I could be a second door, just next to the first, and hit you as well.
....long story.... Of course, that is the only way. Well done Frank ! Show the way to this stupid people - hater.
I'm not talking about being killed in combat, I'm talking about the psychological effects of war and how it can be devastating for some. I would much rather kill myself than to come back all messed up psychologically from a war, and have to deal with that for the rest of my life. Sure you can learn to deal with it, but you'll never get over it. That's why I would much rather kill myself altogether rather than coming back dead psychologically.
Doc :wave:
At first, though, you're flag did say you were from China. Also, you're not the only young person here, there are many others here who are as young, if not younger than you. As well, rex22neo, many of the posters on this thread have not "mocked" you, and those who did didn't mock you because of your age. Remember, you're the one who brought yourself into this, and you're the one who has to be ready to receive criticism of your actions.
"He's just trying to get your goat."
I'm not saying hes right, hell. I love Japanese. I'm only 25% japanese, but I'm damn prove to be 25% japanese. We should have not reply and piss him off. Then we would have the last laugh.
He didn't even reply once.
That's why I suggested avoiding marriage. It leaves "some" guys psychologically dead. (Probably more than combat ever has).
There's just a few unintelligents who hate for no reason. :okashii:
Those monkey pictures were cool though! :giggle:
Doc :wave:
You'd be well advised to eschew marriage as well.
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Doc :wave:
Pardon me, but that's sort of rich coming from a guy whose visa stamp hasn't dried yet.
Doc :wave:
Your very own GI Joe Troll.
It speaks, just, in easy to understand phrases, such as: "I hate Japan", "I hate Japan" and the ever popular "I hate Japan".
Buy now and get a free bag of Pizza crisps
Only available via mail order form Japan. Note: intelligence is smaller than advertised
Cheers for editing my post so you could take a stab it me, i get it, i get it, youve been here so long your turning asian, big deal.
If you bothered to read it, it would continue to read something like this; " who are only interested in sex, boozing, and not liking anything which isnt like home.
Granted being a US serviceman, you dont really get a choice of destination, and many probably genuinely dont like japan, i just challenge them to give the country thats hosting them a little bit of a chance, or at least refrain from such caveman style club-bashings at the country, the japanese didnt force them to sign up.
As for my visa stamp not even drying yet, whats your point?, im 20 years old, ive only just had the means to get here, we cant ALL have joined the US army in the seventies, infact being british, thats an impossibility, i know your proud of your status as the gandalf figure of foreign nationals in japan, the longest there and wisest, but thats no reason to haze the greenies, we all have to start somewhere.
Oh okay okay, i get your gripe, "the distorted blah blah view of SOME US servicemen and women blah blah so on so on..."
I apologise for any inconvenience and misunderstandings, as always mike, i value your input on japan related topics.
the gandalf figure
All I can picture now is a greying driver with beard, hitting old Japanese lady drivers with his staff.
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